Pros: Light weight, well balanced
Cons: the vibration is the only flaw
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Pros: Light weight, well balanced
Cons: the vibration is the only flaw
Pros: The cost, the performance, the return policy. I planned to send it back but my son won't let me. It is half the price of similar bats but out performs them. I would give straight 5 stars but only had it for 2 months so too soon to know.
Cons: It doesn't have the sound of another brand of alloy bat.
Cons: My son used the bat for a season and I just didn't think it had zero pop. Balls that flew off another bat, were just soft fly balls. I think this might be a good batting cage bat, but not great for game use.
Pros: Is balanced the same as the CF8 (green bat). Not a lot of sting. Seems to have a good sweet spot. Very close to the original Zen but noticeably less pop.
Cons: Noticeably less pop then the CF8 and the illegal Zen. I contacted demarini and was advised they used a "ceramic sleeve" that was inserted into the barrell. This stiffens up the barrel and restricts the "trampoline effect". We hit about 150 baseballs outside and the bat did seem to heat up the more my 12u travel ball son hit with it. He liked it even though the pop was less. He uses a CF8 during his games and had the illegal Zen as a back up. He wanted the retooled bat so we bought a new one with the voucher money.
Pros: My son loved the performance. Very easy warranty process.
Cons: We purchased a new CF8 for the Elite 32 at Disney last July, unfortunately by the end of the tournament the bat was already cracking. We went through DeMarini's warranty process, and was issued a voucher number for a replacement. In April we ordered a new Re-tooled CF Zen (performance was not as good as the CF8 but still very good) Sadly like the CF8 within a few weeks it cracked. While I understand DeMarini's warranty policies and I'm thankful for the first replacement, I still feel that a company should stand behind their product especially one that fails within the first few weeks. As a guy that works hard for his money I can no longer afford to spend the kind of money that DeMarini charges for bats that are less durable then their competitors
Pros: My 12u son loves the feel of the bat. not much vibration.
Cons: Less pop. Bat busted in less than 2 months.
Pros: i like on how it feels
Cons: the look
Pros: for a brief period, there was decent pop, but soon after it started cracking.
Cons: no durability. this is the third CF8 in a year. Last years CF8 broke in the cage within two days. once returned, received the illegal CF8 then the retooled one. after 4 tournaments its cracking. my sons buddy had the same experience. appaently these bats are not made for tournament players. ridiculous for the money spent.
Pros: it's got a big sweet spot
Cons: the first day I got it it snapped in have. I would go with marrucci
Pros: Great bat with great pop. Not sure on durability yet.
Cons: Plan on this bat weighing at least 2oz more than advertised. I put my boys on the scale and his 30/20 weighed in at 22.17. Still a nice bat, but really a drop 8. Should have probably went with the next size down.
Pros: This bat is by far the best bat DeMarini has ever made.
Cons: Zero so far
Pros: Still has a nice pop and nice feel to it.
Cons: Bat weighs 3 oz over stated weight. Too heavy for my 9-year-old to swing. Demarini Customer service told me it's because of the ceramic sleeve applied to the inside of the bat.
Pros: Great pop! Retooled version is legal for all USSSA play.
Cons: My son is having a hard time getting used to the sound. This bat is not your typical one piece aluminum or alloy.
Pros: It has a lot of pop and it was fresh right out of the box i love this bat tho
Cons: some of the reviews concern me about the bat snapping and craking
Pros: Good pop
Cons: A lot of money for a throw away bat. I coach a 11U Travel team and we have had 4 Demarini bats break in last 2 months all of the bats were less than 6 months old!! Getting a 2019 with a voucher praying it last a season, if not ill never waste my money again on these products or guide my players parents towards Demarini.
Pros: Best bat i'v ever used
Cons: Cost a lot
Pros: the bat hits bombs and has no sting.
Cons: is breaks really fast
Pros: Even though this is a retooled bat it seems to have some good "Pop" in it.
Cons: You may get some push back at tournaments about this back being ban but it has the the "R" and an orange end cap to show it has been retooled and it is legal for USSSA play.
Pros: This has been a great bat. My son loves the feel and it is driving the ball much better than his COMBAT. I don't allow him to use it below 60 degrees which I think helps with durability on the composite. They get brittle the colder it it. Price was great and we are very satisfied.
Pros: My son has wanted a "De Marini" - meaning a USSSA Zen - since he started playing travel. These bats have a huge following - the kids worship them. Well, at this price point, I could get him what he wanted without missing a car payment, and the bat is fantastic. We did the break-in precisely (200 1/2 speed swings, rotating 1/4 turn each time), and the bat is holding up well and hitting bombs. He is a big strong kid and a good hitter, and when he squares it up, the ball is gone in a hurry. Overall, the bat is: - "Hot" - the ball jumps off of it - designed with max contact area - the barrel stays at the max diameter over a large distance - reduces vibration to the hitter's hands - a tremendous value
Cons: Understand these composite bats have a life expectancy - they will all crack given enough swings and under certain environmental conditions. Control what you can. Only use it for games, not practices or BP, don't let teammates borrow it outside of games, you get the idea. It's like anything else - take care of it and it will last longer. It is well balanced, but a little heavy toward the end cap, which can cause weaker kids to develop bad swings where the barrel lags behind the hands. If your player is not on the stronger side, opt for a shorter length, which will make the bat lighter and easier to swing. I see a lot of kids swinging bats that are too big for them. You put a smaller bat in their hands, and they become totally different hitters. It's not everything, but it definitely can make a difference. I'll take bat speed over plate coverage any day. Overall, I don't see a lot of cons here. It's a great bat - but like all composites, it will break eventually.
Pros: very balanced
Cons: grip slips when hands are wet
Pros: After reading other reviews I chose this bat for my son to use for this season. With the insert it dors swing like a drop 8, but it was bought purposley for that reason. We are using it as a transition bat to get to a drop 5. Extra care was taken to get the proper break-in and my son put in roughly 200-250 medium swings between the tee and soft toss before use. It was then used for two regular games and continued to heat up to the point where multiple players on the team are now using it as it has become pretty hot. We did not have any previous experience with Demarini composite bats as I have been a Louisville Slugger person, but so far I have been impressed with what I have seen the bat do.
Cons: Even with the extra care to break in, I have already saw some nicks in the bat that make me a little leary as what to expect from the durability. There have not been any problems through 3 tournaments with multiple players using the bat, but I want to see if it lasts the entire season. At the price I bought it for I will not complain if it doesn't last, but it might hold me back if I had to purchase one at the full cost.
Pros: the feel
Cons: My son "broke it in" like he was supposed to the first day he got it. Bat broke the next day during the first game of the tournament! They sent a replacement, and it broke the next weekend! Way too much money for bats not to last.
Pros: My boys love these bats! great feel ans pop!
Cons: they do break down pretty quick
Pros: grip is great, the pop will knock you out,
Pros: great pop out of the wrapper.
Cons: barrell cracked within the first week.
Got a question about the 2017 Anderson Flex -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: SL17FLEXXL ? Ask our team of experts, and they will respond within 24 hours.Ask A Question OR
Just confirming, the 2017 Anderson Flex - 10 is approved for 2018 little league standards?
Unfortunately, the 2017 Anderson Flex -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: SL17FLEXXL will not be allowed for USA sanctioned baseball in 2018 (which includes Little League.) It is however, approved for all USSSA baseball.
Will a 2016 flex meet dixie youth baseball guidelines?
As of January 1st, 2018, Dixie Youth Baseball adheres to the new USA bat standard. With that said, the 2016 Anderson Flex will not be approved for play. You can learn all about the USA Baseball rule change here: https://www.justbats.com/bat-resource-guide/usabat-standard/
Can't find many reviews of this bat if any online. Is this a decent bat and good pop out of wrapper? Is it more balanced or end loaded? Looking to use this for 9U travel team.
The 2017 Anderson Flex -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: SL17FLEXXL is a one piece alloy bat, so it will be hot out of the wrapper with no break in required. The 2017 Anderson Flex -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: SL17FLEXXL is well balanced, and features a 30 day trial period meaning that if your player isn't satisfied with the bat, you can return it within 30 days of the purchase date.
When hitting, will this bat have the sound of a CAT 7 alloy bat?
The 2017 Anderson Flex -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: SL17FLEXXL is a one-piece alloy bat much like the Marucci CAT 7. Both bats will make the traditional "ping" sound on impact but whether or not one feels they have similar sound would be one of personal opinion.
What is the difference between the 2017 SL17FLEXXL and the 2015 SL15FLEXXL other than the price and year?
The main difference between the 2017 Anderson Flex -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: SL17FLEXXL and the Anderson Flex Senior League Baseball Bat: SL15FLEXXL would be the paint scheme as the alloy (AB-9000 compared to P-9000) is not a noticeable difference.
Got a question about the 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR ? Ask our team of experts, and they will respond within 24 hours.Ask A Question OR
Is this bat legal to use for USSSA?
Yes, the 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR has been re-tooled and is now allowed for use in all USSSA play.
My son plays 13 Majors and he is trying to find a new bat or two.I have read the reviews on the DeMarini bat and it does not have the best reviews. I want him to get the most out of this bat. Is this a good choice or should I look at other ones?
The 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR has been a very popular model with loads of performance, but has had some bad reviews due to the durability. For your 13 year old I would look at getting a bit heavier model, which will increase the mass behind his swing resulting in more performance. Take a look at the 2019 DeMarini CF Zen -5 USSSA Baseball Bat: WTDXCB5-19, which will be a premier -5 bat.
We play 8U coach pitch and I have seen two of the non-retooled bats break. First bat, the barrel split like it was twisted in two opposite directions, second the barrel broke off the handle, will the retooled bat hold up better?
We have not seen an increase in durability issues with the re-tooled version of the 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR. We suggest reading over the customer reviews on this bat as they are generated from individuals that have directly purchased the bat.
I just purchased a Marucci Cat 6 27/17 for my son. He is 4'2'' and 55 lb. He plays 9U travel ball. I am not happy with the performance. I know the speculation of the weights. I am wanting to try a Demarini CF Zen -10, which should I try, 28/18 or 27/16?
Based solely on your player's height and weight, and if he is playing kid pitch baseball, I would suggest a 28" 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR. However, if he is playing coach pitch, you could consider the 27/16 junior big barrel model, especially if he struggled at all with the 17 ounce bat he was swinging previously.
Is this bat legal for 13u USSSA?
The 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR is not legal for 13U USSSA play as this level requires a minimum of a -8 USSSA bat. We have heard some 13U leagues requiring -5 USSSA bats though so it is always best to check with a coach or league official before making a purchase in this age group.
I"ve been reading that this bat comes in heavier than what is stated. What is the actual weight of the 30/20?
All bats are weighed before the paint, grip, knob, and end cap are put on the bat so bats usually are going to be slightly heavier than the listed weight. The 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR tends to be close to 1.8 oz. heavier than the listed weight.
Does this bat still come with a 1 yr warranty since it's a 17" model?
Yes, the 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR would still come with a 12-month manufacturer's warranty.
Is this the retooled or will I have to send back to get retooled? Is it marked?
The 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR is the re-tooled model and is marked as such with the orange "R" mark on the barrel as well as the different colored end cap.
Does this bat meet USA bat rules?
Unfortunately, the 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR is only going to be USSSA aproved and not legal for USA play. DeMarini did release the 2018 DeMarini CF Zen -10 USA Baseball Bat: WTDXUFX which will be USA approved.
Is this bat illegal now for USSSA play?
No, the 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR has been re-tooled and is now fully legal for all USSSA play.
Does this bat still come with a one year warranty?
Yes, the 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR comes with a 12 month manufacturer's warranty.
Is this still legal for USSSA baseball?
Yes, the 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR is legal for USSSA baseball.
How does the 2017 Blue CF Zen -10 compare to the 2017 Green Zen, and the 2018 Orange Zen, in regard to pop that each bat has? I have read reviews that state the 2017 Blue Zen has a lot less pop since being retooled. How do these bats Compare in Pop to the 2017 Marrucci Hex?
Pop is always more one of personal opinion. With the 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR there have been some mentioning of poor performance. Some of that may have to do with the fact people were accustomed to the performance of its predecessor which was recalled due to being too hot. So far, customers do like the feel and performance of the new 2018 DeMarini CF Zen -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: WTDXCBZ. Some slight alterations to the end cap and connection point design give this bat more balance and vibration reduction but hard to say if there is a gap in performance capabilities between this bat and the previous re-tooled model from 2017.
Are there any drop 5 or 8 BBCOR bats? My son is joining the middle school baseball team and I think a drop 3 is a little heavy.
Unfortunately BBCOR bats are only made in -3 length to weight ratio models. The 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR is a -10 length to weight ratio model. The BBCOR version would be the 2017 DeMarini CF Zen BBCOR Baseball Bat: DXCBC.
Is bat the retooled version or the one they banned last year?
The 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR is the re-tooled model that will comply with all USSSA standards.
Need advice! My son is playing 12u, he is 5'6" and weighs 155 pounds and is currently hitting a CAT 7 30/22. Should I stay with CAT 7 and go to a 32/24 or this CF Zen 32/22? Can't decide!
Based of your players height and weight, I would recommend a 31 or 32 inch bat. The 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR might be too light for him as he will be transitioning to BBCOR in the next couple years. I would recommend staying with a -8 drop weight. In that case, I would recommend the 2018 DeMarini CF Zen -8 Senior League Baseball Bat: WTDXCBR.
My son is playing 9U kid pitch. He is 4"2" tall and 49 lbs. Do you know of a good bat brand and size?
DeMarini is a very good bat brand, and the CF Zen is considered their top of the line model. We would recommend a 27" or 28" length for his size.
Can this bat be used in USA baseball for Babe Ruth?
The 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR is USSSA certified, so it is not legal for play in USA leagues such as Babe Ruth.
I guess I don't get the "re-tooled" part of this bat. What has happen to have a bat get a label like "re-tooled"? Is it hotter, was there something not right with the other CF Zen bats? Just wondering about that.
Some CF Zen models (including this -10) were exceeding the performance standards for USSSA once they were broken in, so DeMarini recalled them and released them again in this re-tooled model. The new model now complies with the USSSA 1.15 BPF standard.
Is this bat banned? USSSA?
The 2017 DeMarini CF Zen USSSA -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR is Re-Tooled To Comply With All USSSA Standards.
What is the difference between the CF Zen -10 Senior League Bat, and the CF Zen -8 Balanced, other than 2 ounces? Looking for a 30" bat for an 11, soon to be 12 year old. The -10 Senior League is much cheaper online.
The 2017 DeMarini CF Zen Re-Tooled -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR has a 2 3/4" barrel diameter whereas the -8 has a 2 5/8" barrel diameter. The only other difference will be the aesthetics of the bat.
How do you tell them apart? Does the retooled have something written on the bat to let you know it is legal?
The 2017 DeMarini CF Zen Re-Tooled -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR has a different color end cap as well as has stamp that is orange with "R" inside to illustrate this is a re-tooled model.
Is this bat legal for USSSA play? Our 9-year old is just starting travel ball and we wanted to be sure he could use this bat.
The 2017 DeMarini CF Zen Re-Tooled -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR will feature a USSSA BPF Certification making it legal for USSSA play.
Which bat is better: the -10 CF Zen or the -10 DeMarini Voodoo?
For 2017, I would say that the more popular option has been the CF Zen (especially before the re-call on the original model was made). However, we have not received a high amount of reviews on this 2017 DeMarini CF Zen **Re-Tooled** -10 Senior League Baseball Bat (DXCBZR). It is hard to be completely accurate when stacking it up next to the Voodoo which has received good reviews, but not a lot of total reviews. Overall, both the Zens and Voodoo (DXVBZ) have been solid bats. I would feel alright suggesting either bat.
Does this bat need a break in period?
Yes, the 2017 DeMarini CF Zen Re-Tooled -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR does require a break in period. We recommend about 150-200 swings off of a tee, starting your swing at about 50% and work your way up with each swing. Also, be sure to rotate the bat to make sure that all sides of the bat are broken in.
Does the bat come with a 30 day trial period?
No, unfortunately the 2017 DeMarini CF Zen Re-Tooled -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR does not feature a 30 day trial period. Once it has been used it cannot be returned. If the bat were to become defective, then it would be covered by a one year warranty with DeMarini.
Is this good for Dizzy Dean play?
Yes, the 2017 DeMarini CF Zen Re-Tooled -10 Senior League Baseball Bat: DXCBZR is legal for Dizzy Dean for players that are 12 and under in 2017. It has been fixed to meet the USSSA standard that is required for Dizzy Dean.
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